In addition to our small Denver office team, we have an outstanding Board of Directors and National Advisory Council who help make this ministry possible. We are equally grateful to the thousands of ACMNP friends and supporters who this ministry could not exist without.
Co-Executive Director (Placement & Communications)
Co-Executive Director (Program & Leadership)
Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Coordinator
For the past eleven years, Amy has worked with A Christian Ministry in the National Parks as the Director of Placement and Communications, and most recently, as co-Executive Director. Prior to her time in the office, she served in three national parks and spent a season recruiting for the national office. Originally from Idaho, Amy earned her undergraduate degree in Communications and Business from Northwest Nazarene University. She earned her Master of Nonprofit Management degree from Regis University in 2018. Through her graduate studies, Amy was recognized as an Opus Student Scholar, and was invited to join an international nonprofit honor society called Nu Lambda Mu. She is also a certified Master Trainer with The Lions Lead leadership development organization. Her experience working with World Vision, Love INC, Musana CDO and ACMNP gave her a strong love for nonprofit organizations and equipped her to carry out the impactful ministry occurring in the national parks each season. Amy has been married to her husband, Bobby Kennedy, for the past four and a half years. He is 2nd grade teacher. In her free time, she enjoys hiking, swing dancing, singing jazz music, kayaking, and playing with her golden retriever pups Chloe and Tucker. Amy can be reached at email@example.com.
As the Co-Executive Director of Program & Leadership, Dave coordinates and oversees all components of our ministry program in the parks. ACMNP training and ministry programs are designed to ensure that ACMNP team members provide impactful ministry in the parks while developing leadership qualities and skills for future service in the church and world. Dave holds a Bachelor of Religious Education degree from Great Lakes Christian College and a Master of Divinity degree from Emmanuel Christian Seminary. Dave is a certified Master Trainer with The Lions Lead leadership development organization. In over 40 years of ministry, he has served as pastor with a mega-church in Indianapolis and a local Denver church, led over 20 cross-cultural mission trips, was a campus pastor at East Tennessee State University, and started Campus Christian Fellowship at Appalachian State University. He enjoys bow hunting for elk, skiing, camping, writing, reading, and exploring the Colorado wilderness with his horse, Jade. David and his wife, Dawn, have two grown sons. Jonathan and daughter-in-law, Amanda, have two children named Olive and Desmond. Alex served as an airborne medic in the Army and is married to Kana. They have one daughter named Rosemary. For program questions, including interest in joining a Ministry Support Committee, contact David at firstname.lastname@example.org.
As Administration Coordinator, Paula is primarily focused on database management, event planning, and general office and Board support. She was previously the Administrator for the ACMNP National Office before she and her husband, Jim, moved to work with Missouri Baptists in 2016. She’s worked for the past few years in administrative/accounting roles for the Missouri Baptist Foundation and Baptist Homes Healthcare Ministries. Paula is excited for the opportunity to return to the Park Life team, working remotely from their home in Jefferson City, MO. She grew up in central Missouri and graduated with a Management degree from Missouri State University. Jim serves as the Developing Leaders Director for the Missouri Baptist Convention, and is excited to re-connect his passion for leadership development to the ministry of ACMNP. Paula and Jim have three adult children; Perry is in Kansas City, Ellen in Chicago, IL, and Davis in Waco, TX. Paula loves exploring the beauty of God’s creation, finding off-the-beaten-path restaurants, traveling with her husband, cooking, and hosting. For questions regarding donations, events, or general inquiries about ACMNP, Paula can be reached at email@example.com or firstname.lastname@example.org or by calling 303-220-2808 ext. 0.
Lauren grew up in Indiana and graduated from Grove City College with a degree in history. After receiving her Master’s degree in Public History, Lauren worked as an archivist for a historic preservation organization for a year. However, she always dreamed of working for ACMNP and is so excited that she gets to work in ministry and national parks-two of her favorite things! Lauren also loves her husband Jake, sour cream, hiking, spending time with friends and family, traveling, and history. Lauren is responsible for reviewing applications, offering placements, as well as growing and maintaining positive relationships with park concessionaires, their human resource departments, and the National Park Service. For placement-specific questions about the parks, or if you would like to have a team at your national park property, please contact Lauren at email@example.com or by calling 303-220-2808 ext. 3.
After graduation from Florida Christian College (JUFL), Amos worked in the local church primarily leading and discipling middle and high schoolers as a student pastor. In 2021, God opened the door for Amos to explore ministry in a totally new context through ACMNP. He led a team serving in Glacier National Park over the summer and another team in Death Valley National Park through the winter. He joined ACMNP full time in spring of 2022 as the Program Coordinator. Amos loves exploring the outdoors, hiking with friends and playing lots of board games. His passion is for discipleship and building community with others. You can reach Amos at firstname.lastname@example.org
Dani grew up in Texas and Oklahoma, but has called Colorado home for over a decade. She graduated from the University of Central Oklahoma with a degree in Humanities and received her Master of Arts in Justice and Mission (biblical social justice) from Denver Seminary. Her previous experience includes five years as an executive assistant and time as a housing coordinator at a faith based nonprofit. Dani and her husband, Tyler, have a four year old firecracker of a daughter named Amelia. Dani’s biggest passion is advocating for the flourishing of others, particularly the people most marginalized in our society. Dani would say that the majority of her personality consists of a love of reading and coffee, both of which is what you will find her doing in her spare time. To contact Dani, please email email@example.com or call 303-220-2808 ext. 1.
Sarah graduated from Utah State University in 2020, with a degree in Social Work and a minor in American Sign Language. The year following, she interned with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship at her alma mater. She has served two summer seasons with ACMNP; one in 2020 at Lake Powell and the other in 2022 in Glacier National Park. Her seasons were drastically different (in both landscape and team) but equally used by God for transformation. She loves hiking, snowshoeing, listening to podcasts, and eating Popeyes. She is excited to be inviting students into a life-changing experience for the 2022-2023 season! If you have questions for Sarah, would like to schedule a recruiting visit, or would like to learn more about living and serving in a national park, feel free to reach out at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Oluwatobi (Tobi) Ojo ascribes her adventurous spirit to her childhood in Lagos, Nigeria where she was born and raised. Spending most of her life in Long Island, NY since age 9, she has embraced the many diverse spaces that she has been led to discover. In 2018, during her final year as a theology & ministry student in Fuller Theological Seminary – Pasadena, Tobi accepted the call as an inductee of the ALDP program with ACMNP and to serve as a Team lead with the Denali National Park team. She has since embraced the unveiling of ministry in mission by serving others where she feels called. While at Fuller Theological Seminary, Tobi served as a Women’s Ministry co-leader for The Potter’s House – One LA for two and half years. She also served as the lead for the Prayer Ministry and Hospitality Team respectively for the duration of her time in Los Angeles. In 2020, after graduating with her Master of Science in Marriage & Family Therapy, Tobi accepted the call to Atlanta, GA where she currently resides with family and finds joy in her vocation as a therapist and a wellness coach. Tobi enjoys reading, writing, traveling, cooking, and discovering the hidden bodies of water all around her. She has a deep passion for walking alongside others toward healing and wholeness as she considers it grace to be a bridge-builder between faith and mental health wellness. She is exceptionally thrilled to work alongside ACMNP as the Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Coordinator. Tobi can be reached at email@example.com.
Brad is the owner and founder of Binkley IT Consulting since and has been providing expert and valuable network administration to businesses in the Denver Metro Area since 1999. He has been a tremendous asset to our team and has helped bring ACMNP into the digital age in some important ways. While Brad works with many other groups, we like to think that we are one of his favorites. We try to find ways to get him into our office more frequently, as he is a favorite of ours as well.
Taylor Derrick, CPA is a Manager at Bright & Associates. Founded in 2014 with a desire to see God’s kingdom advance and ministry flourish, Bright & Associates is a Parker-based CPA firm focused on providing outsourced accounting and CFO services to churches and ministries across the United States.
John Roberts is a Principal and Senior Portfolio Manager at Segall Bryant & Hamill. He has over 30 years’ experience managing portfolios for a variety of clientele including endowments and foundations, and high net worth individuals, among others. Working with non-profits such as ACMNP is one of the most satisfying parts of his job, especially attending ACMNP’s annual meetings at national parks around the country.
Executive Committee - Chairman of the Board
Executive Committee - First Vice Chair
Executive Committee - Second Vice Chair
Executive Committee - Secretary
Executive Committee - Treasurer
Dave Gillogly has a passion to ‘help people succeed’. This passion became so engrained in the culture of the world’s largest privately-held personnel company under Dave’s leadership that it became the company’s purpose statement and mantra.
Dave served as President and Chief Operating Officer of Express Personnel Services from 1988 until his retirement in 2000 leading the company from 100 to more than 500 offices worldwide and from $100 million to over $1 billion in annual revenues. Express now ranks in the top five among all personnel companies in the world, public or private.
Prior to his tenure with Express, he held senior-level leadership positions in the trucking, oil and gas, and consulting industries. He also served on Oklahoma Governor David Boren’s staff as liaison to the Office of Budget and Management, the Labor Department, and the Department of Central Services. He served five years as Commissioner (CEO) of the Oklahoma State Workers’ Compensation Insurance Fund.
Since retirement, he consults, coaches, and mentors senior-level business and not-for-profit executives and teaches in the Paul Dickinson School of Business at Oklahoma Baptist University.
He is the author, co-author, or editor of four books and serves on numerous for-profit and not-for-profit boards of directors including Express Personnel, Vertical Learning Curve, Integra Realty Resources, Francis Tuttle Technology Center, Oklahoma Baptist Homes for Children, The Baptist Foundation of Oklahoma, A Christian Ministry in the National Parks, and the Hough Ear Institute.
Dave holds a BA in Economics and an MBA from the University of Oklahoma. He and Millicent, his wife of 51 years, divide their time between their home in Oklahoma City and their cabin in Silver Gate, Montana. His goals are both sublime and ridiculous: ‘to be conformed to the image of Christ’ and to be a world-class trout bum.
Dave’s love for the outdoors and the national parks, and his life-long personnel mission of helping people succeed (especially young people) motivates his work as Chairman of the Board of A Christian Ministry in the National Parks.
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Chris Tomlinson has served A Christian Ministry in the National Parks, in one capacity or another, since 2003, when he was a student minister in Yellowstone National Park. He currently serves on the Board of Directors of ACMNP as the First Vice Chair and a member of the Executive Committee. An attorney by trade, Chris is a partner at the law firm Moore & Van Allen in Charlotte, North Carolina, where he practices business litigation. Chris has extensive experience representing clients in complex business and securities litigation, with concentrations in shareholder and corporate governance disputes, merger and acquisitions litigation, financial services litigation, and broker-dealer litigation. He regularly represents and advises members, shareholders, and directors regarding corporate governance matters. Chris also assists clients with international and domestic regulatory enforcement matters, internal investigations, and white-collar criminal matters, particularly when they involve securities or other financial issues. Chris received a B.A. from Furman University, and a J.D. from Vanderbilt University Law School.
After being hooked by the mission and people of ACMNP as a student minister in Yellowstone National Park, Chris went on to serve with ACMNP in Virgin Islands National Park on St. John, USVI, and Mt. Republic Chapel of Peace in Cooke City, Montana. Chris then worked in the national office of ACMNP in Freeport, Maine, and Denver, Colorado. He has served on ACMNP’s Board of Directors since 2010. Chris appreciates the opportunity to be a part of ACMNP’s unique and powerful ministry. He also enjoys being able to fly-fish, hike, and explore the national parks with his wife and two kids while attending board meetings.
Glenn is a retired pastor of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, having served a congregation in the Pocono Mtns for seven years and then spending 30+ years as shared staff as a Director for Mission Outreach on behalf of the ELCA and as an Associate of the Bishop of the Northeastern PA Synod of the ELCA. My work responsibilities included serving as Director of Pocono Area Leisure Ministry.
I originally joined the Board of ACMNP as an official representative of the ELCA, but now continue on the Board as Secretary. My avocations include serving with the local fire department, philately, and travel.
Brian served as Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at T-Mobile, USA from 2001 to 2011 and in several other leadership roles from 1996 to 2001. He headed T-Mobile’s financial, strategic planning, M&A, IT, supply chain and other operational groups. In 2011 he shifted gears to join the non-profit sector, serving as Executive Vice President and CFO for CRISTA Ministries in Seattle, WA for four years. Brian also worked for Ernst & Young’s Telecommunications Group and several broadcasting companies. He received his MBA from the University of Washington and BA from Washington State University. Brian and his wife Nancy live in Lake Tapps, Washington and have three grown children and two grandchildren. He currently serves as chair of the Board of Trustees of Whitworth University in Spokane, WA. He has also served on several other boards, including at churches, the Global Business Advisory Board of the University of Washington’s Foster School of Business, and in various roles in Scouting. His family enjoys the outdoors, especially hiking & climbing, skiing, tennis, travel, and family gatherings. Brian is grateful to be part of ACMNP which his family first learned about years ago while camping at Mt. Rainier National Park and attending an ACMNP worship service.
Laura is a former Chief Investment Officer and principal of an elite investment management firm specializing in private equity fund of funds investments. Her diverse business expertise includes launching a highly successful private equity enterprise, positions as a Portfolio Manager and Auditor for a multi-national Global Fortune 500 company, and serving as a Special Agent and Forensic Specialist for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. As a seasoned financial services executive Laura’s forte lies in her ability to combine a deep strategic perspective, with disciplined risk-reward frameworks, and a finely honed business advisory approach to achieve intended results. The clients and companies she has served included entrepreneurs, family offices, investment banks, private equity funds, asset managers, pension funds and trust companies, Global Fortune 500 companies, and Forbes 400 families.
As CIO Laura defined the vision for the firm’s investment programs while incorporating an intentional strategic planning framework. She has been instrumental in designing, managing, and monitoring Kenmont’s top performing diversified private equity portfolios and developing long term strategies for internal and external growth. Her measurable success is built on a foundation of impeccable relationships, designing and implementing an institutional quality investment protocol for fund evaluation, due diligence, and the creation of a portfolio development database.
Prior to joining Kenmont Capital Partners, Laura was Portfolio Manager for Shell Oil Company’s $6.5 billion (at that time) pension trust holding oversight and responsibility for asset allocation and public and private equity portfolios. Laura joined Shell as a member of the Corporate Auditing team in order to “learn the company” from the inside. She worked on a wide range of assignments in the corporate and manufacturing segments including operational audits, financial, tax, and specialty tax audits.
Before Shell Oil Company, Laura served as a Special Agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, as one of the Bureaus first 50 female agents and the first female agent to be trained in electronic interception, Laura led investigations of complex financial crimes, bribery and political corruption, entailing extensive inquiries into oil, coal, and trucking companies.
Laura is married to Michael and their have 2 married children, four grandchildren.
Their passion is traveling and have visited numerous National Parks.
Dan was actively engaged in the preservation and management of National Parks over a 43 year career with the service. His love of the environment was evident in his choice of study in Landscape Architecture at Michigan State University. As a landscape architect he began his career designing and integrating visitor facilities into the natural and cultural environments of our national parks. He went on to become the park landscape architect for Yellowstone, Superintendent of Mount Rushmore National Memorial developing a public/private partnership to preserve the memorial and develop visitor facilities to accommodate and educate the visitors to the Memorial. For five years he lead the NPS national planning, design and construction program, became the Deputy Director for Operations for the NPS. He had the honor to serve for nine months as acting Director of the NPS during the transition to the Obama administration. Dan then took on the role of Superintendent of Yellowstone National Park. While at Yellowstone he also served as the interim President of the National Park Foundation during the launch of the NPS Centennial Find Your Park Campaign. Dan retired from the National Park Service in 2018 and now is on the board of several non profits that support the National Park Service and the environment. He resides In Rapid City, South Dakota with his wife Barbara and in close proximity to his children and grandchildren.
Daniel Villanueva is a founding partner of RC/Fontis. He has invested in and served on boards of companies in professional sports, media, financial services, medical devices, pharmaceuticals, food products, and the health and beauty industry. Villanueva led the launch of Major League Soccer in the Rose Bowl as the founding president of the Los Angeles Galaxy, which has been the league’s most successful franchise to date. He was co-founder of Moya, Villanueva & Associates, Inc., a national marketing and public relations firm and also co-founder of a media group that included several Spanish-language radio and television stations. Villanueva earned his bachelor of science degree at Stanford University and is a Henry Crown Fellow of the Aspen Institute. He has served on the boards of several prominent non-profit organizations and higher education institutions.
Lindsey’s journey with ACMNP began in the summer of 2007 when she served in West Glacier National Park. In 2008 she joined the National Advisory Council and has served on our Board of Directors since 2013.
Lindsey, a graduate of the University of Alabama, brings 18 years of marketing experience. Her portfolio includes the Country Music Hall of Fame where she managed promotions for country artists with the likes of Reba McEntire and George Strait, and maintained partnerships with XM Satellite Radio, CMT, Grand Ole Opry, Ryman Auditorium, and the Nashville CVB. Lindsey went on to gain agency experience at GS&F, a fully integrated advertising agency in Nashville. Most recently, Lindsey spent 10 years in healthcare as Sr. Marketing Manager at HealthStream, Inc. Under her leadership, her team executed marketing campaigns resulting in over 1 million dollars in sales opportunities per quarter and marketed a tech product that became the #1 ICD-10 training solution for U.S. hospitals, physicians, and non-acute facilities.
Lindsey’s true passion is coaching and mentoring college students, which she has done since 2003 as the Head Cheerleading Coach at Belmont University – a Division 1, nationally ranked program.
Lindsey, her husband Adam, and their son Barrett, reside in Nashville, TN.
Darwin Glassford is fascinated by helping people understand the learning-teaching process, especially as it relates to discipleship. A lifelong student of learning, culture, technology, and theology propels him into unique conversations. It is this combination that fuels his passion for ACMNP and informs his role on the Board of DIrectors. He loves the outdoors and exploring how students serving ACMP are impacted for both the short and long term.
Darwin is married to Janet, they have two daughters and five grandkids. Darwin holds graduate degrees in theology, educational philosophy, and Christianity and contemporary culture. He currently serves as the Executive Pastor for Harderwyk Ministries (Holland, MI), and Director of Online Education and Graduate Program Director at Kuyper College (Grand Rapids, MI).
Randy Hatzenbuhler is the president of the Theodore Roosevelt Medora Foundation since 1997. He has worked in Medora since 1988. He is a graduate of the University of North Dakota and previously worked as a certified public accountant. He also was the Director of Fundraising for the TR Presidential Library’s successful $150 million first phase campaign.
The TR Medora Foundation is a key player in the development and promotion of Historic Medora as North Dakota’s number one vacation destination. Over 4 million people have enjoyed a summer evening in the heart of the Badlands while attending the Medora Musical. The Foundation has 50 year-round full-time employees and the staff grows to 360 on a seasonal basis; it also utilizes nearly 650 volunteers annually.
Randy says the vision to “connect people to Historic Medora for positive life changing experiences” applies equally to the visitors and the employees who come from all over the world – “they have an enthusiasm and energy that is exciting to be around.” He is grateful to have been part of the growth of Medora and playing a role in over $65 million of capital improvements including the Medora Musical, Bully Pulpit Golf Course, renovation and expansion of the historic Rough Riders Hotel, Life Skills Center and Elkhorn Quarters.
Outside of work, Randy has the privilege of serving on a local community bank board and as a director at A Christian Ministry in the National Parks.
Randy enjoys history, travel, reading, golf and spending as much time as possible with his wife, Laurie, his two children and their families that now include four grandchildren.
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Dr. Michael Chan is Associate Professor of Old Testament at Luther Seminary in St. Paul, MN. He holds degrees from Pacific Lutheran University (B.A.), Luther Seminary (M.A.), and Emory University (Ph.D.). He has authored numerous books and articles related to the Old Testament and is a sought-after adult educator, leader, and group facilitator. His research and teaching focus on theological interpretation of the Old Testament for the sake of the church. In addition to his teaching and research, Chan is deeply involved in a variety of innovation initiatives at Luther Seminary.
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Dave Gable has served on the ACMNP board since the early 1980s, first representing the Assemblies of God, then, after a Board downsize, as one of several Christian ministers on it.
Dave and Millie have had a life-long love affair with our wild places, especially our national parks, camping and hiking in many of them, as well as in state parks in California, where they spent most of their ministry. Dave has “section hiked” about 300 miles of the Appalachian Trail, including an arc of it from the Potomac to the Delaware Rivers. While Dave pastored in Fresno CA, he also served on and chaired the Board of the Church of the Sequoias, and cooperated with the pastor of our church in Yosemite.
They have served as Interim Pastors in two of our three churches in National Parks: at the Grand Canyon Community Church, during the summer of 2010, and as Interim Resident Minister at Yellowstone National Park for eleven months during 2016-2017, serving also as Pastor of the Gardiner (MT) Community Church. Each of these assignments called for helping with the training and supervision of teams of students.
Dave is a life-long follower of Jesus Christ. His primary ministry is to teach the Bible cheerfully, speaking and writing with a frequent focus on Christian relationships, often with the title, “Journey to Unity.” This has had a focus on marriage, with Couples Seminars held in several continents, and inter-denominational dialogue.
The last post of full-time ministry was from 1993 until 2007, during which he was Assistant Superintendent of the 450-church Southern California Network of the Assemblies of God, where he served as a general officer, and coordinated Church Planting, Missions, and HonorBound (Men’s Ministry).
Dave spent 1971-79 as national director of Chi Alpha, the university ministry for the Assemblies of God; and 1980-93 as lead pastor of Northpark Community Church, Fresno, CA, a church designed to communicate with people who have no background in studying the Bible.
His Doctor of Ministry is from Fuller Theological Seminary, Pasadena (1986); his Master of Divinity from Faith Theological Seminary, Philadelphia (1966); and his undergraduate work from what is now Valley Forge Christian College, Phoenixville, PA (1963), where he met his wife, Millicent. He has also taken graduate classes at the Assemblies of God Theological Seminary and Mennonite Brethren Biblical Seminary.
Millicent, his wife, and Dave have served in A/G Marriage Encounter since the early 80s, including several terms as National Clergy Couple. They have three wonderful “Buster generation” daughters, who, with their husbands, amaze and amuse them; and five grandchildren who light up their lives.
Dave has served also as adjunct faculty at Vanguard University of Southern California, Northwest University, AGTS (Springfield, MO), MBBS (Fresno, CA), Continental Theological Seminary (Belgium), Evangelical Theological Seminary (Croatia), and Asia Pacific Theological Seminary (Baguio, the Philippines). He has lectured at most of our accredited A/G Bible colleges, and taught in mission settings around the world. His articles have been published in the Pentecostal Evangel, Ministry Enrichment, and Leadership Journal, with reprints in others. He is member of the LA Roman Catholic/Evangelical dialogue since 2008.
Dave hikes and golfs for exercise, relaxes by reading about the Battle of Gettysburg, and buys newspapers just to get the sports and comics.
Mrs. Julie Appiah-Finn
The Rev. Bill Black
Mr. Peter Brabeck
Mrs. Ann Burchill
Mr. Kent Carter
Mr. Steve Carter
Mrs. Jackie Caswell
Ms. Allison Chisolm
Dr. Jim Critchlow
Mr. Carl Douhan
The Rev. Linda Fritz
The Rev. G. Holger Hansen
Dr. Tracy Hartman
Mr. Peter Hoss
Mr. Steven Iobst
Mrs. Gaye Kloster
Mrs. Nancy Lundgren
The Rev. Dr. Bill Young
Mrs. Debby Young
Mr. Dave Mihalic
The Rev. John Miller
Mrs. Joyce Mundy
The Rev. Dr. Ron Nydam
Mrs. Carole Oldemeyer
The Rev. Dr. Chester Polk
Mrs. Bobbie Roegge
Mr. Jim Roegge
The Rev. Katherine Rohde
The Rev. Dr. Jeff Saville
The Rev. Dr. Mary Schaller-Blaufuss
The Rev. John Schmidt
The Rev. John Sheild
Ms. Sandy Sisson
The Rev. Dr. James Speed
Dr. Larry Van Genderen
Dr. Bruce Wheeler
Mrs. Anne McPherson-Tracy
Mrs. Nancy Ost
Dr. Bob Beaver (Grand Canyon, South Rim)
Pastor Jeff Ballard (Gardiner Community Church, Yellowstone)
Pastor John Schmidt (Pacific Northwest)
Pastor Brent Moore (Yosemite)
Pastor Don Taylor (Mt. Republic Chapel of Peace, Yellowstone)
Pastor Rob Benson (Acadia)
The Lord said, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?” And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”